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The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill

Microsoft is keeping very quiet about the upcoming release of Windows Live Wave 4, and it’s driving us crazy.  Obviously we were hoping for a release to coincide with the launch of Windows 7, but that deadline has come and gone.  We’re hearing now that Microsoft is keeping the release dates very close to the vest, even within Microsoft, but that the release dates have been changing.  Remember back when Windows Live first started, and those cheeky kids at Red West were going to teach Windows how to ship every 2 months?  Well now Windows Live has moved out of Red West, and they haven’t shipped anything of consequence in over a year.  Well we can hope for a nice big blockbuster new version that will make it all worthwhile, but this wait is killing us.

So while we wait for someone to push Windows Live out the door, we still have wild rumors, Twitter posts, and some sneak peeks to fall back on.  Let’s take a look at what might be coming:

Messenger:

Will this be the release that finally gets tabbed conversations?  A commenter on LiveSino.net claims to have seen just that:

# November 2009 on Tuesday, February 10: 14 pm
I have used M1 version, there is already a tab chat features

Now we’ve seen hints about tabs in previous versions, as the LiveSino post points out, so we’re not getting our hopes up.  Tabbed chatting has to be the #1 feature request  for Messenger, though, so we’ll hold out hope.

Windows Live Writer:

News of Writer’s demise may be exaggerated, at least in the short term.  One Twitter user was quite impressed with what he saw:

The new internal Windows Live build is so awesome that I skipped a beat as I launched Writer.

Documents and Devices:

We told you before about a couple of new tabs we spotted, and it looks like Wave 4 will at least begin to bring Live Mesh and Office Web Apps more firmly into the Windows Live experience.

docdevices 

We’re not expecting to see a full Live Mesh experience in Windows Live this release, but at least some integration is coming

SkyDrive, “Flix”, and a return (of sorts) of Soapbox?

Ok this one is from the TOTALLY WILD RUMOR department, but as it sits right with where we think Windows Live should be heading with user-generated video, we’ll go ahead and leave you with this to mull over:

"Flix" is not intended to compete with YouTube. Will offer granular sharing controls a la WL Photos. Meant for family-sharing etc. Will be powered by Silverlight, and surfaced under the Windows Live Photos brand, WLMM plugin coming soon.
CSP is @Skydrive for all this of course and Skydrive is now managed over a Azure fabric controller. The roadmap right now apparently, is not to officially increase the 25GB cap, but up the per-file upload limit to 100 MB over the web & WLPG, 500 MB through WLMM, while LOE will use delta-sync. When the average usage level goes above a certain percentage of 25GB, Microsoft will bump it up to 50 GB, which is already provisioned but not officially marketed. And yes, ever-increasing storage is free.

Now we checked, and not only is Flix a trademarked name for computer video software, but Google bought the company that owns the trademark, so we doubt even if there is a grain of truth to this that we’ll be seeing the Flix name anytime soon.  That doesn’t rule out Flix as a code name, of course.  We’re planning on hearing a lot more about Azure at PDC in a couple of weeks, and will be snooping around for how Windows Live and Azure fit together.  We’re being told there won’t be much Windows Live news, but you never know (and hey it’s a week in LA for a sun-starved Seattleite!).

Hopefully we’ll have a bit more than wild rumors and speculation soon.  In the meantime, have you heard anything new about Wave 4?

Comments

MikeTorres wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Mon, Nov 2 2009 3:54 PM

"Well now Windows Live has moved out of Red West, and they haven’t shipped anything of consequence in over a year."

Hmmm, really?  I remember something in August!  :)

Kip Kniskern wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Mon, Nov 2 2009 4:12 PM

Awww Mike, didn't mean to dis you!  As you said in our interview, though, WLMM was an out of band release.  We're talking Waves here, but point taken!

yogi76 wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Mon, Nov 2 2009 5:44 PM

I hope they integrate video into the Windows Live Photos site and just change it to Windows Live Photo & Video. Video should be treated the same as photos across the board by Microsoft in all their products including Windows Live, Windows Media Center, and the Libraries feature of Windows 7. Videos are after all simply moving pictures. Look at Flickr for a good example of how it should be done.

Also, they need to give us a way to rearrange albums on the Windows Live Photos website.

damaster wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Mon, Nov 2 2009 6:21 PM

@yogi76: Good ideas! Actually the post does quote the following: "[Flix] will be...surfaced under the Windows Live Photos brand".

Hmm I hope that unlike Flickr they'll allow greater than 90sec videos though...that's way too short. Something like 10mins (YouTube's limit) or 20mins (Facebook's limit) is more reasonable.

Also, like Flickr, make public photos & videos searchable!

damaster wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Mon, Nov 2 2009 9:51 PM

actually...re-reading the post, maybe the limit is 500MB for video files uploaded from WL Movie Maker, not limited by minutes.

nikhil_jain wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Tue, Nov 3 2009 12:22 AM

Infact i am hoping for details on WL 4 at pdc ..! So siting bck wth figure cross..!!

lituus wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Tue, Nov 3 2009 2:03 AM

Hey Kip/LiveSide,

Thanks for linking. Yes, I agree that this should be treated as "TOTALLY WILD RUMOR" material and want to confirm that "Flix" was mentioned as a codename nearly three months ago.

I also apologize for being unable to get linkback/backlink/trackbacks working on my blog right now as I'd be more than happy to direct any reader to LiveSide. I do have you guys on my "links thingy" under the title though :-) More tips/rumors/news are coming, next up should be "Midori" stuff.

tigerpower wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Tue, Nov 3 2009 2:05 AM

I have heard that live mesh is going to be discontinued.

let's hope it is going to be merged in skydrive...

emiliano84 wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Tue, Nov 3 2009 2:24 PM

I hope in video service and in mesh/livesync/skydrive merge and fullintegration...

p.s.

tabs in messenger i salso a good idea but for xp/vista users i don't need anymore with win 7

quikboy wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Tue, Nov 3 2009 5:02 PM

Why not compete with YouTube while we're at it? This whole sharing videos with just friends and family is so boring. None of my friends or family are actively involved on the Windows Live profile - They're already on Facebook or MySpace like most other people.

Having a sort of hybrid between YouTube (mass-public sharing) and Facebook (more personal) video-sharing would be awesome if Microsoft could somehow do it. Hopefully nothing like Soapbox or MSN Video again.

emiliano84 wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 3:19 AM

i agree with quickboy and i'd like something like this:

video in public skydrive folder can be searched and watched by everyone like youtube

video in private skydrive folders only from friends

but u can put your video in live spaces :)

paperlock wrote re: The Windows Live Wave 4 rumor mill
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:54 AM

Can any body out tell me if you can store video podcast in the folder that is comeing in windows live wave 4

Video in private skydrive folders only from friends and family.And are windows live going geo taging built in windows live wave 4 so i do not have this buy hand.

I use this two geo tag my photos i like land marks.

And what is windows live gallery going updated up two windows live wave 4 and my.live.com

Next what happening with windows live Video Messages and Windows Live FrameIt.

www.microsoft.com/.../tools.aspx

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