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Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010

events Windows Live Events will be retiring in 2010, and instead you will be able to plan and manage social events all in one place through Windows Live Calendar, according to a post on Windows Live Wire.

In 2010, we’ll retire Windows Live Events entirely. At that time, you will no longer be able to get to any of your old events, and you won’t be able to download and save old event photos and videos.

Beginning in September 2009, you won’t be able to create new events at Events.live.com, but you will still be able to download and save your files and photos.  Here’s a video that WL Wire posted to walk you through how to save the stuff you were dumb enough to trust you tried out Windows Live Events with:

You can also create events on Windows Live Calendar today, although they don’t allow for saving and sharing documents and photos.  More on Windows Live Wire.

Comments

gregsedwards wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 3:34 PM

Wow, Kip sounds a little bitter about the closure. To tell the truth, I don't know what to think about the recent changes, including this closure of WL Events. Did I ever use the service? Well, I tested it out once or twice, but no, I never used it to plan an actual event. Unlike Mail, Spaces, Shared Favorites, Groups, and other facets of WL, Events was pretty specifically tailored to a single purpose. I mean, just how many events does one expect to plan? If they can accomplish the same thing with WL Calendar soon, then there's no need adding bulk to the already confusing landscape of WL. Just don't take away the other services that people actually use.

JohnCz wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 4:05 PM

Will Microsoft provide functionality to

1. Link Photo Album(s) to Live Calendar Event

2. Link Document(s) via SkyDrive to Live Calendar Event

3. Create equivalent experience to Live Events "home page" so people can comment about the event.

4. Have capability to theme Live Calendar Event home page.

If the idea is to utilize Live Spaces to provide equivalent functionality then I'm for the change.  The problem is, no one knows what is in Wave 4.  I'm getting a little tired of the silence.  They need to start communicating about this now.

lituus wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 4:44 PM

See my latest blog post at:

lituuslimacon.blogspot.com/.../yet-another-possible-microsoft-leak.html

on Microsoft's long-term plans for its online services. Please treat this as unconfirmed & possibly unreliable information, because my tipster is a new guy this time. However, that document predicted the demise of WL Events and its functionality being merged into Calendar. It just didn't predict how soon that would happen.

quikboy wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 5:42 PM

What a surprise. Not.

Live Events was an OK service. However, Evite is a MUCH better site if you're into this kinda web service. There's more options, more design choices, more features, etc. Evite offers much more than Live Events.

Only thing different with Live Events is an actual discussion board, and ability to upload photos or other documents.While having a discussion board is handy (which I could just e-mail people instead if there's something worth discussing...), I doubt any event is so important that you'll think of posting any images or videos from the event right onto the Event's page. Instead, most people (or Windows Live users) could directly post it on their own SkyDrive or Spaces. That's it.

So yeah, I thought Live Events wasn't that great of a site, especially if you have other contacts on a different non-Hotmail account, or you want to add Facebook friends and such.

damaster wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 8:11 PM

Truthfully, I only ever set up one Event up there for testing purposes, and only ever received one Event invite. I would think that Calendar provides a better service as Calendar actually sends a "meeting request" (like those in Outlook) which requires the respondant to RSVP. Additionally Calendar allows you to view at the same time all your other schedulings, making organising events/meetings/time all-in-one-place. I would think it makes sense to close Events and have Calendar instead. The only thing that would be missing is sharing documents and photos to organise the event, but hey, doesn't Groups provide that functionality already? Maybe, as JohnCz said, is Microsoft needs to integrate all these services to make them actually useful.

I just hope that the Windows Live Mail calendar bit gets updated, as currently I have no way to send meeting invites or invite other people to the meetings/events I create on Windows Live Mail.

Alber1690 wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 9:33 PM

I actually planned my birthday last year with Events, hehe. My invitees were really impressed with the whole experience (accepting the rsvp, discussing, etc. the event), but like with most WL services, they never bothered to use it when it came to their own events. I hope the Calendar integration preserves most of the overall experience and this is just one less sub-domain to worry about.

damaster wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 12:20 AM

For more information on the Windows Live Calendar/Hotmail meeting invite feature, see our previous LiveSide article at:

www.liveside.net/.../meeting-invitations-in-windows-live-calendar-and-hotmail.aspx

I've just tested it (sending a meeting invite to myself), it works like a charm! You're able to Accept, Tentatively accept, or Decline right within Hotmail, and it updates real-time to your Windows Live Calendar. You're also able to see all those who're invited and who had accepted/declined from within Windows Live Calendar. Lets hope it'd provide more customizability though as I might not want everyone to see who I've invited or who's responded.

Alimaggs wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 12:48 AM

Shame.  I used Events all the time...  It was a great way to set up events, have a conversation about the details, and send updates to people.

Incidentally, the Calendar implementation is all well and good if you have a hotmail account.  For those of us that use their own email address as a Windows Live ID, the ability to invite people is disabled.

So.... Facebook, it is then.

Shame that this feature was never really given the promotion and growth it deserved.

Anyone else feel that annual updates to Windows Live (the "wave" approach") should be replaced by/complimented with incremental updates?  Since last November, there have been very few changes and additions to any of the services.

foaf wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 4:44 AM

I said it at the time: It would take a lot to make me use WL Events over Facebook. Facebook's got me locked in to it's events. Why? Because I have more contacts in Facebook than WL, and my contacts would understand a Facebook invite, and say "WTF?" if they received a WL Events invite.

JSYOUNG571 wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 6:39 AM

It's amazing how Windows Live is relying on this bugy calendar for events. Has anybody tried deleting a contact from their contact list and when you look at the birthday calendar in Windows Live calendar their birthday is still there with no way to delete it?

Alimaggs wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 11:46 AM

I disagree with Foaf.  Although I do have more "friends" on Facebook, I have more *actual* friends (the people that matter, the people I spend time with and socialise with and the people I want to talk to and communicate with) on Messenger and in Windows Live.

I don't see the logic in shutting down Events really (unless they've got something neat lined up for "Wave 4" with the calendar)...

Certainly I think that by shutting down Events, it removes a vital part of what was becomming quite a decent social network.

And yes, the calendar replacement is not nearly as good...  (Plus, it doesn't work if you have a Windows Live ID that isn't using Hotmail as its mail service).

Bad move, I reckon.

But then I used Events on a regular basis.  And found the discussion elements and photos very useful...

mcrobbiegt wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 4:40 PM

What a shame.

I actually liked Live Events i always thought it was a much better set up than the Facebook version.

Everyone uses Facebook events, i think given time and as more people use the Live services, I think this would have been a popular tool.

I do not think Live Calendar really has the capability that events had, but I hope to be proved wrong.

gregsedwards wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Wed, Aug 5 2009 12:18 PM

I totally agree with JSYOUNG571 regarding the bugginess of WL Calendar, specifically with regard to the birthdays of deleted contacts. You can't manually cull entries from the Birthdays calendar, so if anything ever goes wonky with your contacts, you're in for a mess of duplicate birthdays and you can't do anything about it.

On top of that, if you use the Outlook Connector, then you end up with duplicate birthdays on your primary calendar (created by Outlook) and the Birthdays calendar (created by WL Calendar).

Wouldn't one expect a pair of Microsoft tools to work together better than this? Ok, stop laughing...

Firedog wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Thu, Aug 6 2009 6:06 AM

OT perhaps, but what happened to Live Wire (where this announcement came from)? The last feed I had from them was way back in March, and I don't remember any notice from them or anyone else that they were changing their name or changing the URL of their feeds. I assumed it was just another example of an MS blog that was all a-flutter for a time and then sank into oblivion. What did I miss?

quikboy wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Thu, Aug 6 2009 3:40 PM

@Firedog: Windows Live Wire is still there:windowslivewire.spaces.live.com

Anyway, I think I recall a blog post saying they were switching their RSS feed URL. I guess you may have missed it.

paperlock wrote re: Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010
on Sat, Aug 8 2009 8:28 AM

Windows Live calendar need two intergated with windows live shopping so i make shopping list four holidays and etc.

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